FILM · 1974 · USA
The Conversation
- Directed by
- Francis Ford Coppola
- Runtime
- 115 min
- Studio
- The Directors Company, The Coppola Company
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A paranoid, secretive surveillance expert has a crisis of conscience when he suspects that the couple he is spying on will be murdered.
80 Interesting Facts About The Conversation
Interesting Facts (13)
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Gene Hackman's brother, Richard Hackman, played two roles in the film: the priest in the confession scene and the security guard. In addition, in the scene where Harry Caul discovers that his tapes were stolen by Meredith, the shoulders seen on screen belong to Richard because Gene was unavailable.
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The person who helped Francis Ford Coppola turn The Conversation (1974) from a static portrait of loneliness into gripping, Hitchcock-like suspense was master sound engineer Walter Murch, who had previously worked with him on The Rain People (1969) and American Graffiti (1973). The director said: "Even though the film is about privacy, sound will be the key element in it. So I suggested he (Murch) edit the picture; he hadn't done it before and hadn't considered it his area of expertise. He agreed. That's when I recognized Walter as a filmmaker…" As a result, the sound in The Conversation adds an unsettling, confusing texture that gives the film tension and a constant edge. For example, Murch notes: "You don't know what the point of view is at the opening. It's clear when you're just looking at Union Square in San Francisco, hearing those soft, rolling sounds of the city at lunchtime. Then it comes in skewed, like a red line with a spike across the view - you don't know what it is - this digital noise… pretty soon you find out what it is, and you learn that what you assumed was neutral is neutral. God's point of view is actually the point of view of a hidden recorder recording all of this, gathering these distorted sounds that are the imperfectly recorded voices of the targets, the young couple's conversation sometimes muffled by the sounds of the square."
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Production Story (28)
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The film was produced via The Directors Company, a production company formed by Francis Ford Coppola and fellow directors William Friedkin and Peter Bogdanovich. It was in association with Paramount Pictures, allowing the directors to make any film they wanted for under $3 million. This film was the second produced but despite its success, it led to tension between Coppola and Friedkin. Friedkin didn't like the film and thought it was a rip-off of Blow-Up (1966). This film and then the subsequent release Daisy Miller (1974), directed by Bogdanovich (it failed at the box office), led to the demise of the company.
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On the DVD commentary, Francis Ford Coppola says he was shocked to learn that the film utilized the very same surveillance and wire-tapping equipment that members of the Nixon Administration used to spy on political opponents prior to the Watergate scandal. Coppola has said this is the reason the film gained part of the recognition it has received, but that this is entirely coincidental. Not only was the script completed in the mid 1960's (before the Nixon Administration came to power) but the spying equipment used in the film was discovered through research, and the use of technical advisers, and not, as many believed, by revelatory newspaper stories about the Watergate break-in. Coppola also noted that filming had been completed several months before the most revelatory Watergate stories broke in the press. Since the film was released to theaters just a few months before Richard Nixon resigned as President, Coppola felt that audiences interpreted the film to be a reaction to both the Watergate scandal and its fall-out.
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The blue Mercedes limousine that Cindy Williams is sitting in near the end of the film was won by Francis Ford Coppola on a bet with Paramount Pictures. Coppola had complained about the station wagon he shared with five other passengers during the filming of The Godfather (1972). Studio executives told him that if The Godfather had grossed a certain amount, they would spring for a new car. After The Godfather became the highest grossing film of all time, Coppola and George Lucas went to a dealer and picked out the Mercedes, telling the salesman to bill Paramount Pictures.
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The one person who helped Francis Ford Coppola transform The Conversation (1974) from a static portrait of a loner into a riveting, Hitchcock-like thriller was Walter Murch, an ingenious sound engineer who had previously worked with him on The Rain People (1969) and American Graffiti (1973). The director stated "although the film was about privacy, sound would be the core element in it. So I suggested that he [Murch] edit the picture as well, which he hadn't really done before and didn't think of as his specialty. He agreed. And that was when I got to know Walter as a filmmaker..." As a result, the sound in The Conversation adds a disturbing and disorienting texture to the movie that gives it tension and a constant edge. Murch points out, for example, "you don't know what the point of view is at the opening. It's clear only that you are high up looking down on Union Square in San Francisco, hearing those soft, billowy sounds of the city at lunchtime. Then, like a jagged red line right across the view, comes this distorted--- you don't know what it is---this digital racket...you will learn what it is soon enough, and you will learn that what you assumed was a neutral God's-eye point of view is in fact the point of view of a secret tape recorder that is recording all of this, picking up these distorted sounds that are the imperfectly recorded voices of the targets, the young couple's conversation sometimes muffled by the sounds of the square."
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Francis Ford Coppola has cited Blow-Up (1966) as a key influence on his conceptualization of the film's themes, such as surveillance versus participation, and perception versus reality. But in The Conversation (1974), the focus is on sound recording, not photography. "Francis had seen [it] a year or two before, and had the idea to fuse the concept of Blowup with the world of audio surveillance."
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In the original script, Harry Caul was the owner of the building in which he lived. There was a deleted scene where he had a meeting with the other tenants. One of the people there was Mrs. Evangelista. Now, we only know of her character when Caul speaks to her on the phone after she leaves him a birthday present.
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Francis Ford Coppola cited his conversation with fellow Director Irvin Kershner about surveillance as the basis and theme of the film. According to Francis Ford Coppola, he "first conceived the idea for The Conversation (1974) in the mid-1960s while listening to director Irvin Kershner (The Flim-Flam Man (1967)) discuss espionage and state-of-the-art surveillance tactics...He told Coppola about long-distance "shotgun" microphones that looked like rifles. They were so powerful that when they were aimed at the mouth of each speaker they could actually record a conversation between two individuals, even in the midst of a crowd." (from Godfather: The Intimate Francis Ford Coppola by Gene D. Phillips). This particular detail so fascinated Coppola that it became a key element in the elaborate opening sequence in The Conversation in which Harry records a couple's conversation in a crowded public square in downtown San Francisco.
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Timothy Carey was originally cast as Bernie Moran. When he was informed that he would not be paid extra for any post-production looping of his dialogue, the eccentric performer insisted in his contractual agreement that producer Fred Roos had to personally mow his lawn. Needless to say, he was fired and production was shut down until he was replaced with Allen Garfield.
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Gene Hackman's character was to have been named Harry Call, but a typing error led to his being named Harry Caul, and the name stuck because Francis Ford Coppola liked how the meaning of the word caul (a baby born in the amniotic sack) related to the character. This ties in strongly with both Harry's transparent rain jacket, which he wears for the majority of the film, and also the fact that Harry is occasionally viewed through a translucent sheet of plastic when threatened, such as by his rival during the party scene. Modern sources have pointed out that "Harry Caul" was named after "Harry Haller," the main character in Hermann Hesse's Steppenwolf, who, like Harry, was a recluse.
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Harrison Ford's part was initially intended to be a small cameo, written as little more than an office assistant. Feeling that the character was one-dimensional, Ford decided to play him as gay, a risky choice in 1974, and personally purchased the loud green silk suit for nine hundred dollars ($6,000 in 2023 dollars). Francis Ford Coppola was at first shocked by the outfit at rehearsals, but after discussing it with Ford, was so impressed with this interpretation, that he expanded the role into a supporting character, gave the character a name (Martin Stett) and had Production Designer Dean Tavoularis create an office that reflected the character's orientation.
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Francis Ford Coppola was able to shoot the film in his hometown of San Francisco (the warehouse used for Harry's work-space in the film was only five blocks from the director's American Zoetrope studio) and work with his own repertoire of actors, many of them on the verge of major career breakthroughs---Harrison Ford, Frederic Forrest, Cindy Williams, John Cazale, and Teri Garr. Robert Duvall, who was already a well-established character actor and Best Supporting Actor nominee (for The Godfather (1972)), agreed to appear in an important but unbilled cameo.
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The original cut was four and a half hours long. Most significant was a subplot of Harry dealing with his neighbors, who complain about the building's plumbing problems, unaware that Harry owns the building. Other scenes feature Harry consulting his lawyer (played by Abe Vigoda) about the apartment situation, and Harry convincing his teenaged niece (played by Mackenzie Phillips) not to run away from home.
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In his DVD commentary, Coppola says he was surprised to learn that the surveillance and listening devices used in the film were the same as the equipment the Nixon administration used to monitor political opponents before the Watergate scandal. Coppola stresses that the recognition the film gained for this reason was entirely coincidental; the script was completed in the mid-1960s, before Nixon came to power, and the equipment in the film was discovered through research and technical advisers. Shooting had finished months before the Watergate reports broke, but when the film was released shortly before Nixon's resignation, audiences interpreted it as a response to the scandal.
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Coppola bases the foundation of the film's idea on a conversation he had with director Irvin Kershner about surveillance. When Kershner explained that long-range "shotgun" microphones were powerful enough to record two people's conversation even in a crowd, Coppola was deeply impressed, and this detail became the central element of the film's opening scene in a crowded square in San Francisco.
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Although Gene Hackman received Best Actor nominations at the Golden Globes, the BAFTAs and the New York Film Critics Circle and won at the National Board of Review and the Sant Jordi Awards, he was not nominated for an Oscar. Critics and the film world regarded this as a great injustice, yet Hackman's performance still resonated widely.
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Francis Ford Coppola said that his first choice for the role of Harry was Gene Hackman and that he found him ideal as an 'ordinary, seemingly unremarkable' person. He thought Hackman, in his forties, was perfect to play a man who had been doing this strange job for years. This choice was a deliberate decision that increased the character's credibility.
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The cast of The Conversation (1974) includes two Oscar®-winning actors: Gene Hackman and Robert Duvall. Three Oscar® nominees also appear in the film: Teri Garr, Harrison Ford and Frederic Forrest. This wealth of award-winning and nominated actors was among the elements that raised the film's prestige.
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That same year, both Robert Duvall and Frederic Forrest were nominated for the Best Supporting Actor Oscar®. Duvall competed with Apocalypse Now (1979) and Forrest with The Rose (1979); however, both lost the award to Melvyn Douglas. This coincidental rivalry points to a productive period in both actors' careers.
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Spoiler: The key line Harry assembles from the plaza recording of Mark and Ann is Mark's remark, 'He'd kill us if he got the chance.' Harry initially believes the emphasis is on the word 'KILL' and that Ann's husband (the Director) is planning to kill them. Later, however, he realises that the real emphasis is on 'US'; Mark and Ann are saying not that the Director is threatening them, but that if the roles were reversed he would carry out the same murder plan, and in the end they kill him and take over the company together.
Behind the Scenes (12)
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One thing that was not widely noted about the film's plot at the time of its initial release was that the vital tape-recording is, in reality, two different recordings of the same sentence being read by the same actor, with special emphasis on a different word in the second one than in the first. It was only when videotape became widely used and people were able to record the film from its television showings (or else watch a videocassette of it) that it became noticeable that this emphasis was audibly different. Director Brian De Palma, when promoting his similarly-themed film Blow Out (1981) in 1981, accused Francis Ford Coppola, in several interviews, of "a terrible cheat."
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In the first scene inside Harry's apartment the camera is in a fixed position, and does not follow Harry as he walks in and out of view. When he goes to his couch the camera turns left and remains fixed on the couch. This is an imitation of a surveillance camera, as if the viewer is spying on Harry.
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Due to creative differences on this shoot, cinematographer Haskell Wexler was replaced by director of photography Bill Butler, who had worked with Coppola once before on You're a Big Boy Now (1966). According to Francis Ford Coppola, Wexler visualized the movie in the more romantic style of The Thomas Crown Affair (1968), while Coppola saw it more in the cinéma vérité style of Medium Cool (1969) (Wexler was cinematographer on the former, and directed the latter). This movie was the first of two Oscar®-nominated films where Wexler would be fired and replaced by Butler, the second being One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975), where Wexler had similar problems with director Miloš Forman. Wexler's opening Union Square sequence, however, which was extremely difficult to shoot, remains in the film and sets the appropriate tone of paranoia that runs throughout the film.
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Gene Hackman's brother, Richard Hackman, played two roles in the film, the priest in the confessional and a security guard. Additionally, in the scene where Harry Caul discovers that his tapes have been stolen by Meredith the shoulders on screen are those of Richard as Gene was unavailable.
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Francis Ford Coppola must have played with the exterior locations of Harry's apartment. In the second scene where Harry talks to Mrs. Evangelista on the phone, a construction site near the building is visible. Later shots show different views. In just one shot there is a visual joke outside the kitchen window: a Gulf gas station sign. At the time, apartment listings would joke about a "Gulf view."
Characters & Cast (11)
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Gene Hackman was a fit, good-looking relatively young man when Francis Ford Coppola cast him as Harry Caul. In order to personify Harry's weary, aging, and unhappy existence, Hackman grew a pathetic-looking mustache, wore ill-fitting glasses, and had a wardrobe picked out that was at least 10 years out of date. Coppola specifically told Hackman he wanted Harry to look like a "nudnik," a Yiddish word referring to a person who is boring and a pest. The director also incorporated some autobiographical details into Caul's background; in high school, Francis Ford Coppola was a science geek and president of the radio club. One time, he even planted hidden microphones around his own home so he could eavesdrop on family conversations.
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Francis Ford Coppola noted in the DVD commentary that Gene Hackman had a very difficult time adapting to the Harry Caul character, because it was so much unlike himself. Coppola says that Hackman was at the time an outgoing and approachable person who preferred casual clothes, whereas Caul was meant to be a socially awkward loner who wore a raincoat and out-of-style glasses. Coppola said that Hackman's efforts to tap into the character made the actor moody and irritable on-set, but otherwise Coppola got along well with his leading man. Hackman stated it wasn't a pleasurable experience for him, recalling: "He was really a constipated character. It was a difficult role to play because it was so low key."
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In the DVD commentary, Francis Ford Coppola stated that Gene Hackman had great difficulty adapting to the character of Harry Caul, because the role was completely opposite to his own outgoing personality. At the time, Hackman was a casually dressed, friendly person; Caul, by contrast, was a socially awkward loner who wore a raincoat and outdated glasses. Hackman admitted that playing this low-key and 'constipated' character was not enjoyable and that he became grumpy on set, though he and Coppola generally got along well.
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The character of Harry Caul was created inspired by surveillance technology expert Martin Kaiser, who also served as a technical advisor on the film. Kaiser's real-life experiences added depth to Caul's professional obsessions and paranoia. This collaboration made an important contribution to the film's realistic atmosphere.
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In the scene where Harry Caul turns on the television in the hotel room (1:36), the news anchor on screen was George Dusheck, a local San Francisco television and newspaper reporter. This small detail added an authentic local texture to the film. Dusheck's being a real journalist increased the scene's credibility.
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Easter Eggs & References (5)
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Francis Ford Coppola must have played around with the exteriors of Harry's apartment. In the second scene when Harry is on the phone with Mrs. Evangelista, there is construction work seemingly close to the apartment building. Later shots show different scenery. There is a sight gag outside the kitchen window in just one of the shots. It's a Gulf gas station sign. There was an old joke at the time about advertising apartments with "a view of the Gulf."
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Gene Hackman plays a former NSA agent who is a surveillance expert in Enemy of the State (1998), and the images of his character in his younger days are taken directly from this film. Hackman's characters are so similar that fans have theorized they may be the same person, but there is no evidence of this provided by the makers of either film.
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Deeper Meaning (7)
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During the party in the warehouse, Bernie Moran (Allen Garfield) brags that 12 years before, he had recorded the calls of an unnamed Presidential candidate, and may have determined who won the election. This presumably would have been the 1960 election, when John F. Kennedy narrowly won the election over Richard Nixon, who was at the time of the movie's production in the middle of his own taping scandal, known as Watergate.
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Spoiler: The key line from the plaza recording that Harry compiles on Mark & Ann is Mark saying "He'd kill us if he got the chance." Harry originally, and reasonably, thinks the key emphasis word there is "KILL" and that it means that Ann's husband (the Director) is planning to murder them. However, he later realizes that the key word there is "US." Mark & Ann weren't saying that the Director was threatening them. They were stating that if the situation between them and him was reversed, he would enact the same murder plot they're putting together--and they do successfully kill him and take over the company together.
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Career & Awards (4)
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Despite receiving nominations for Best Director at the Golden Globes, the BAFTAs and the Directors Guild Awards, and also winning the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival and Best Director at the Kansas City Film Critics Circle Awards, the National Society of Film Critics Awards and the National Board of Review, Francis Ford Coppola failed to receive an Academy Award® nomination for Best Director. The reason for the snub is attributed to the fact that Academy rules and regulations at the time did not allow directors to be nominated twice in a given year for the same category, which is why Coppola was nominated Best Director for The Godfather Part II (1974) but not for The Conversation (1974).
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Despite receiving nominations for Best Actor at the Golden Globes, the BAFTAs, and the New York Film Critics Circle Awards and winning Best Actor at the National Board of Review and the Sant Jordi Awards, Gene Hackman failed to receive an Academy Award® nomination. Critics, audiences, major film groups and publications considered this a major snub at the time. But the critics definitely took notice of his key performance.
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